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Post by Mr. D. Isaac on Jun 12, 2017 17:12:27 GMT
Using the poem Girl by Jamaica Kincaid, respond to the following discussion post:
Response must be three (3) paragraphs in length. Each paragraph should be 4-5 sentences each. There are three questions in this discussion post. Each paragraph should address one of the questions. This discussion is worth a total of 25 points (for a total of 100%).
Discussion: What do you think is the point of these lessons? What do you think the mother is trying to teach her daughter or prepare her daughter for? Critics have said the mother’s voice is reflecting the demands of the larger society in which they both live. If that’s true, then what are the social expectations on the girl?
Grading Rubric: 25 points MAX (for the sum grade of 100)
Quantity and Quality of Response: 13 points
Spelling and Mechanics: 5 points
Demonstrates knowledge, understanding, and applicability of text: 5 points
Generates learning within the community: 2 points
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Post by Aldo Mejia on Jun 27, 2018 17:01:25 GMT
I think that the point of these lessons were to teach her daughter about the responsibilities a female has in the way they do things where she lives. The lessons show that not only men have to work hard and that men can't only be the ones doing chores. Also, maybe the lessons show that the mom really cherishes her mother and her teachings.
Maybe the mother is trying to teach the daughter about responsibilities and discipline. Also, the mom could be preparing her daughter for when she is an adult and has a husband and/or family because it talks about how to smile at someone you like, how to iron her father's khaki shirt, how to sweep a corner and a yard and other things like that. The mother is preparing her daughter for the future.
I think that the social expectations are that the daughter is able to live with people and among people. She is expected to have a family so that she can continue to teach what she has learned from her mother. Once she has a family and passes on what she has learned, those children will also pass on those teaching and make a cycle to keep the "culture" alive.
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Post by Jose Contreras on Jun 27, 2018 17:17:25 GMT
I think that the mother is trying to prepare her for the future. Usually a mother teach their kids when they know something could happen. If they know that something could happen than they may have to influence their children for their best.
I think the girl’s mom is preparing her because she knows how men are. I think she is also preparing them because maybe she will be a house wife, or she could get a job. Her mom might not want her to get a job like now in the present where women have man’s jobs. Her mom must not want her to talk to rat men because she knows that they could end up breaking her heart.
She wants what is best for her child while following the culture. She probably wants her to iron her father’s shirt and pants because she might want to take a job. She could also be teaching her how to cook and iron because what I said earlier about being a house wife. She wants her not to be with rat men because they could take advantage.
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Post by francisco careaga on Jun 27, 2018 17:18:14 GMT
The point of this lesson is that in different cultures and different country there is way women are treated and how they should be acting and what they should be doing as women in this story the mother is giving lesson to her daughter in things she has to do in her life which means that that there culture cycle .
I think the mom is teaching her and showing her the real meaning of life for them and they have to do every time she wakes up and has to do what no other person can do .put most importantly is that the mother is teaching her daughter the real meaning of for them and then the daughter will have to show to her daughter .
I think that it is true she has more on demands on her daughter because the greatmom is teaching her what her mom was though and she is youst passing it on to her because that is what she was though so it will make sence that the mother would have more power over her daughter because that’s there culture and they don’t know it is wrong because they have been fallowing that for years.
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Post by Brianna Lainez on Jun 27, 2018 17:56:15 GMT
I think that the mother is being this way on her daughter because she probably thinks it is the best way. Her daughter may not understand why her mom is being so hard on her but, maybe her mom’s mom was hard on her. So, her mom is putting her in the same position she was as a little girl. Her mom was probably trying to prepare her in the future.
Like I said, her mom has most likely been through a lot when she was a little girl. Or, when her mother was her age. Her mother probably hasn’t have gone through anything, maybe her mother mom has been putting things in her mom’s head of how dangerous and cruel the world can be. Her mom is doing that, putting things in her head so the girl can be paranoid or be more “safe” in the world. Her mom wants her daughter to be more cautious if things than just go out and do stupid things.
Do you think the mother wants her daughter to relive her mother’s life? Her mother thought her life was perfect and wanted her daughter to be happy like she was. Or, it can be the other way. Her mother could’ve not listened to her mother and she was going through a lot. She doesn’t want her to go through want she went through. To me that seems as if her mother really cares about her.
I think the social expectations for the girl will be good. She would respect herself as a woman. She would most likely be honest, nice etc. She will have good manners. I think being strict will evolve the girl to become a motivated woman. Most people may not agree. It is mostly about discipline. I kind of agree.
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Post by Anthony Constanza on Jun 27, 2018 18:10:14 GMT
The mother is teaching the daughter how to work in lifetime. She tells her how to do things inside of her home. The mother also told how manners work and how she should use them in her life in the future. The mother taught her these things for life.
The mother was teaching thing that the girl might need for the time she has to do. The mother prepared her for being a house wife. She prepared her for manner and going places fancy and ways to make her not look like prostitute.
The world think that females are supposed to cook and clean while they can do more than that. Some woman are doctors and are great doctors. Some woman are engineers and great at the job. WOMAN can do more than just cook and clean they help the world
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Post by Felicity Grande on Jun 27, 2018 18:11:03 GMT
The point of these lessons is to teach the young women of America how they must act for them to be accepted by society. I believe that the mother if the daughter thinks that she must know all this stuff because she might not make it life. The stereotype for women is to marry a husband, stay home and take care of the kids. She is teaching her these things that make the qualities of a good wife. Cook for them, clean for them, take care of the kids. It seems like women are just objects to men. You can’t do this because then men will think that you’re a slut, or not worthy for them.
I believe that the mom is trying to prepare her from the future. I don’t think the mom likes that she must tell her daughter these things. Some of the things she is saying to her daughter has do deal with men accepting her. She can’t act a certain way around men because they won’t think that they are worthy of them. They can’t squat down while playing a game because that would make her look like a slut that everybody thinks she is going to be one day.
The mother is reflecting society because she isn’t talking to a certain girl. This isn’t a certain family. It represents all the family’s in the world. The expectations that society has for girls. In some sentences they have the girl speaking. She is talking about how she doesn’t go to some of the things. It is like the rules have been passed down from generations that those things don’t even exist or they aren’t required.
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Post by Caleb Richardson on Jun 27, 2018 18:43:52 GMT
The point of these lessons are teaching the little girl how life is going to be for her in the future. She makes valid points with telling her how to treat the people that she encounters so that she would be ready for life. Her mom is also teaching her how to do her chores and what and how to cook things. The fact that she is doing this makes her a good parent. It shows how much she cares for her child.
I think the mother is trying teaching the daughter how society is going to expect her to act. She is teaching her daughter how she is going to have to act if she wants to be accepted as a person in her society. She is teaching he daughter how life is going to be when she is her age. The main point is that she is going to prepare her daughter for life.
Yes the mother is reflecting on social standards because she is saying everything that a regular house wife would do. She is telling her how to fish, clean, and even present herself as a person. Her mother is preparing her daughter for the world by teaching her the ways that regular women do their jobs. The roles that she is teaching her reflect the regular typical house wife.
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Post by Yahir Careaga on Jun 27, 2018 18:44:36 GMT
I think the point of these lessons is so that she is educated on what she should be like. I think her mother is doing what her grandmother did to her. This probably happens every generation. Her mother also wants what she thinks is best for her by doing this.\
Her mother is preparing her for her future. Her mother is also a housewife in society, doing the chores and taking care of the man when he gets home and the children. Her mother prepared her by teaching her how to treat people, how to avoid being a “slut.”
The girls social expectations is to not speak to wharf-rat boys or even give them directions.She also has to prevent herself from looking like a slut. She must smile all the time and have a nice blouse.And most importantly to not do things boys would do.
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Post by nicholas burke on Jun 27, 2018 19:15:54 GMT
I think that the point of these lessons were to teach her daughter about the responsibilities a female has in the way they do things where she lives. The lessons show that not only men have to work hard and that men can't only be the ones doing chores. Also, maybe the lessons show that the mom really cherishes her mother and her teachings. Maybe the mother is trying to teach the daughter about responsibilities and discipline. Also, the mom could be preparing her daughter for when she is an adult and has a husband and/or family because it talks about how to smile at someone you like, how to iron her father's khaki shirt, how to sweep a corner and a yard and other things like that. The mother is preparing her daughter for the future. I think that the social expectations are that the daughter is able to live with people and among people. She is expected to have a family so that she can continue to teach what she has learned from her mother. Once she has a family and passes on what she has learned, those children will also pass on those teaching and make a cycle to keep the "culture" alive. Nick b The mother is trying to teacher her daughter how to be a good person and a good mom and woman trying to prepare her for the future how to treat a man and how to be a better person and know how to clean up the house and how to fit in society Yes, it is true because she trying to show her what it’s like to be a woman in this society and how much you have to do a lot like take care of children and she also trying to prepare her for her children The social expectations for girls is to be like perfect and the mother is the society And the story is called girl because is just not one speciation for that family And in the story the girl in the story saying like we don’t even do this stuff anymore saying like the generation had passed |
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